Here is my first exposure to the
Armenian Genocide: a poster in my school with the Turkish flag's star and
crescent formed into a swastika; I was shocked. I had never heard about this
episode of history, and it certainly was very bothersome for my own ethnic
group to be equated with the Nazis. Especially when the victims turned out to
be the Armenians... my parents raised me to feel a kinship with the Armenians.
(My father would sometimes curse out the Greeks... although I was never led to
believe I should feel hatred for either people, or anyone; quite the contrary,
the things we shared in common were stressed in my upbringing, not our
differences.) I asked my father whether this genocide was true, and he was far
from the biggest authority on the subject. He told me it was the Kurds who did
a lot of the massacring, which sounded to me like laying the blame on someone
else. (Later on, I would learn there was truth to this assertion.... not
because the Kurds were a vicious people (although some, like the Turks,
weren't angels), but because in the Eastern part of the Ottoman Empire, there
were a lot of Kurds who lived side by side with the Armenians; when the
Armenians "fired the
first shot" by ethnically cleansing the regions they were in control
of, it was the Kurds who were mostly on the receiving end. The
counter-massacres committed by the Kurds were mainly in vindictive response to
the murders committed by the Armenians.) My father also told me there was some
American report that pretty much found the Turks innocent, and that was what
appeased me until I could learn more for myself. I guess the American in
question was Admiral Mark Bristol.
I am aware of the massiveness of anti-Turk internet
sites. I have heard a study that said (the) Internet is being
used most effectively by hate groups around the world, to distribute
The most "imaginative" stuff comes from a
Greek Cypriot in Northampton, England who runs the "Discover
The Republic Of Turkey" site, and other linked sites —
I am sure you have seen it. In fact, if you run a general search
on Turkey or the TRNC you can't avoid it. It is an example of
a lie being repeated often enough becoming believable. Another
site is HRA (Human Rights Action) which masquerades as a human
rights site but is actually an anti Turkish site — they used
to have a guestbook, but it vanished. I wondered why — maybe
Turkey or Turks don't sit down and open internet sites to
tell the world about themselves, or their problems. Since Turks
don't have preconceived hatred against any nation or ethnic
group, they don't also sit down and open internet sites to vent
off their hatred. Most of the Turkish sites are for commercial
purposes like tourism, radios, TV's, papers etc. There are a
couple of forums like this site. A couple of forums also are
closed because of financial problems and it goes a long way
to show you that most of these sites are opened and maintained
by individuals, not organizations with certain agendas. I still
can not believe it, some Armenian or Greek organizations sit
down and make fake internet sites impersonating Turks, and actually
put time and money to maintain those sites. How sick is that.
Burak, from a guestbook comment
Over the years I have certainly
encountered further information about the subject matter and have
kept my eyes open for solid evidence in EITHER camp. The problem
was, the only information that could readily be found was from the
Armenian camp. When the "Assembly of Turkish American Associations"
finally got going in the early 1980s, I breathed a sigh of relief....
and ate up their magazine's (ATA-USA, which later transformed into
The Turkish Times) "historical record"
articles, some of which I've dusted off and scanned, for inclusion
at this web site.
Since ATAA took a lot of the slack, I haven't
always been active in writing letters to correct injustices (not much better than
your typically apathetic Turk, who has better things to do with his life... so much
in contrast to hysterical Armenians and Greeks, too many of whom have transformed
their hatred of Turks to a life passion, and a quasi-religion).... mostly, I've been
responding in cases where I got really fired up. However, I have learned that even
one letter can make a difference. I'll share two related examples: When MIDNIGHT
EXPRESS first started playing on television, the major national magazine providing
television listings (TV Guide) wrote the film was a "true
I don't know if the letter I wrote made the
difference, but the next time the movie aired, the magazine included in their
descriptive blurb, "Based on a true story."
Then there was a MIDNIGHT
EXPRESS ad from one of the local stations (WOR-TV, now part
of a network) which also claimed the film was a true story...
but added that the viewer will "go to Hell." That
made it sound like Turkey herself was the Hell in question
(which is only fitting to those who have gone so far as to
label Turks as the anti-Christ), so I took the unusual
step of digging up the people responsible, from the higher-ups
down to the lowly copywriter of the ad agency. The next time
WOR-TV aired MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, nearly two years after I had
written my letter, I was happy to see the "Based on a
true story" change had been made... in the TV
Guide ad below, dated June 10, 1988.
It's actually a very tiny consolation, but when
you're ethnically Turkish... facing the hurricane of anti-Turkish propaganda in a
country like the U.S.A., every little bit helps.
For more on this adorable movie, go to Midnight Express.
If you'll enjoy other examples of Turk defenders who have set
the unfair American media straight, please go to Edward Tashji.
What's a Holdwater?
So what gives? How come Holdwater is hiding
behind "Holdwater" and not providing his real name, address and Social
Shortly before premiering this site, I
decided to match wits in a forum that presented an Armenian "Genocide"
article, and the Armenians who naturally converged like the yellow jackets who buzz
in, ruining a picnic. Armed with my newfound knowledge, I let them have it with both
Their response? "Liar, liar, pants
on fire." No response to the things I said or the points I made... mostly,
the response was in the form of their image of me that they had already created in
their own minds.
One said I was a "Zionist."
Another said I was a paid propagandist. I was also told I would go behind bars, for
denying the "Genocide." (It's safe to assume from their English that the
writers were most likely Americans, perhaps Canadians. If the former, I suppose a
little thing called the Bill of Rights went over their attack-dog mindset.)
This is precisely the sort of thing Judge
Sam Weems encountered, shortly before the publication of his book, "Armenia
-- Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State." The Armenian Assembly of
America libeled him as a "convicted felon," and proclaimed the book to be
propaganda... before the book had even been released.
Armenians can typically be aggressive,
ill-informed, single-minded, and just plain unreasonable... so steeped are they with
their raison d'etre, the identity-formulating, beloved Armenian
So other than not wishing to expose my real
life to a lot of nastiness... especially since I'm not making a cent out of this
(well, actually, the million dollars I received from the sinister Turkish government
for lying my head off has already been blown... after only a week in Las Vegas),
anonymity suits me just fine, thank you.
It shouldn't matter even if I were a
"paid propagandist," as Armenians will believe, regardless. Besides, this
site was not prepared for Armenians and other Orthodox folks whose irrational
hatred of all things Turkish will prevent them from opening up their minds...
these people are, unfortunately, lost causes for the most part. This site is
geared to the "neutral" Westerner, who already has a negative
predisposition toward Turks, as almost all Westerners do. Concentrate on the issues,
and determine whether what you are reading is the truth, or not. The messenger
matters not one bit. All that matters is the message.
I've received comments regarding the above
paragraph: "Armenians can typically be aggressive, ill-informed, single-minded,
and just plain unreasonable..." being an indication of my "hatred" of
Armenians. Just got such a message from an American professor residing in Mexico, who
worships reporter Robert Fisk. He went for
the "personal attack," instead of focusing on any historic issues.
People are going to see hatred where they want. And
those who prefer ad hominem attacks are going to set as their priority to attack the
arguer instead of the argument.
Let's make this clear: I have zero hatred of
Armenians; I was reared to look upon Armenians as my brothers and sisters. I have 100%
hatred of the deception of Armenians' age-old propaganda.
It is true when I first started this site, I was so
overwhelmed by the real hatred that is out there against Turks, in Internet-land, I
decided to strike back in a manner that was not the typical nicey-nicey, take the high
road, style of the Turkish sites I had been seeing. Sure, you can attract more flies with
honey than vinegar, in general. But in the case of this genocide business, the ones who
squawk the loudest keep getting the attention, and voices of moderation — as usual —
get laid by the wayside. (Not that getting laid is that bad, of course.) This is why I
have decided to use colorful language. At times I've regretted that decision, because this
site does not come across as "academic," with the colorful language and humor
that has been interjected. In reality, sources are always provided when available, so the
site is plenty academic. People who don't like the verified sources are going to find
reason to be critical, no matter what.
But I calmed down after getting much of the
frustration out of my system, and later writings became more tempered. When I come across
times I've gone overboard, I've "revised" (gasp!) older pages, to soften
things up. I'm now usually adding modifiers to the word "Armenians," such as
"genocide-obsessed," and the like. (The problem is, when the word
"Armenians" is used in every other sentence, sometimes modifiers are not always
going to be possible.)
If you'll notice how the paragraph above ends, it is
clear I'm not talking about all Armenians. Only about the ones who have gone cuckoo for
When "Armenians" are being referred to
on this site, we are almost always talking about the ones who are genocide obsessed.
Of course there are Armenians who don't believe in
this big fraud. I recently came across a press report in an Armenian newspaper, where
Armenians from Armenia were being criticized for speaking the unspeakable... that the
events in question occurred because of the violence and provocation of the revolutionary
leaders. (Just as First Prime Minister Hovhannes Katchaznouni admitted.) Does anyone believe
out of the seven million or so Armenians worldwide, there aren't going to be Armenians who
know and accept the truth?
But these Armenians don't speak up publicly. They
know better. They know the roots of their own people's terrorism, the kind that claimed 2
out of 3 victims as Armenians in the time span of 1904-06, directed against the Armenians
who didn't play along.
Today, the slightest stepping out of line is a cause
for attack, as Vincent Lima and Ara Sarafian discovered. Armenians who say anything that
goes off-track are immediately accused of being agents of the Turkish government, or
another example of character defamation; the typical smear campaigns begin. Physical
dangers are never out of the question, either, if we are to be reminded of
The only ones who speak publicly are the ones who
have been poisoned by the Dashnak mentality. That includes the diaspora, and
unfortunately, the nation of Armenia. (The first leader after post Soviet independence
tried to keep the Dashnaks at bay. He failed. An Armenian author provides much revealing insight, regarding these issues.) Just go
to any Armenian forum, and you'll see what I mean. Most of these genocide-obsessed Armeni-Lemmings'
minds are simply hermetically sealed; no rhyme or reason will work with them, because they
are approaching the topic not from reason, but from faith. They are the equivalent of
We must assume most Armenian professors know the
truth, but are deliberately falsifying the issues... proponents of "Hai Tahd"
as they are. Most exhibit the same characteristics as stated in the paragraph above. (As
Prof. Guenter Lewy summed up, after being attacked by a whole bunch of pro-Armenian
"scholars": they exhibit a "superb arrogance.")
Conclusion: anyone who feels the paragraph in
question is indicative of "hatred" can try this simple test: point to an
Armenian who publicly goes against the tide. Aside from the late Edward Tashji, and
possibly a few Armenians from Turkey, if you can't find one, then explain how it could be
possible Armenians can so typically be
aggressive, ill-informed, single-minded, and just plain unreasonable. If you fail, then please restrain yourself from going for the
(There may be times when the following e-mail address will be
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accept my apologies in advance.)