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"Why are there more open and operating Armenian churches in Turkey today than there are open and operating Armenian churches in Armenia? Why for example are there no operating and open mosques allowed to function in Armenia today?"

Devoted Baptist and Christian Scholar Sam Weems, in a 2002 letter to Rev. John Hagee; Weems had produced a Christian video at the time ("The Seven Churches Of Revelation"), and conducted extraordinary religious research. Elsewhere, Weems declared: "[T]here are more Armenian churches in Muslim Turkey than there are Armenian Christian churches in Christian Armenia."

 

One facet of Armenian propaganda is to tell us Armenian churches are being destroyed in Turkey. I've often wondered why Turkey would select these times to destroy such churches after allowing them to stand all of these many years, with practically no Armenian community to make use of them. By the same token, it's also curious why bigoted westerners who are quick to take up this particular cry never ask why there are no mosques to speak of in Armenia, when not all that long ago, Muslims had comprised a significant percentage. (A recent CIA Fact Book tells us Armenia is now some 98% "pure." Wonder what happened to all those Muslims?)

The Letters section of TAT has been neglected, but recently I received a gracious letter from a Turkish tour guide shedding light on this "destruction of Armenian churches" phenomenon. (The rest isn't related, but the letter was so charming, it deserved to be put up in its entirety.)

Another letter from a Turkish tour guide coincidentally followed in my mail box, and while it had no bearing to the church matter, I couldn't resist tacking it on... if only to acknowledge the patriotism of Turkish tour guides.

 

 
 

(26 May 2006)

Turkiyeden selamlar ve sonsuz tesekkurler,

I am just informed about your web-page and tried to read as much as I can. I do not know how to say thank you with all the excellent works and studies you have done. I will always use your informations when I needed.. I am a Professional Tour guide in English so I guide English speaking tourists mainly from USA, Canada, England. I am often asked about the "Armenian cenoside" My answer will start by saying this is a big lie the true information is must be as "Turkish Cenoside" done by Armenians.

The whole world EU counties, USA have passed legislation accusing Turks of genoside. France just stopped the vote last week I beleive. Turkish Goverment must take action against France we must go to court and must sue France for this big lie because the french historions and some scholars are againist the french goverment they say thats is a lie we must get all these people to on our side. I am sure you have written those sensible french historians. I love to write them as well. I have tried to send an e-mail to frnech goverment with no luck the mail is returned.

All the big liars know that the turks are not a killer .All the Ottoman documents are permitted to find the thrurt but those terrorist mineded Armenians including Hirant Dink are not brave to find out the their lies. We know them very well they are also supported by idiot Turkish people too and I hate more those turks more than Terorist Armenians. They are many here in Turkey.

I forward your web address to all my firends who can read English will learn a lot. I do not know what must I do let every one infrom about your pweb-page. I am going to forwad your web page to CUMHURIYET newspaper reades have organisation we call CUMOK. I hope they will publish all your writtngs and your opinions for the Turkish people. We must read your book every one all the teachers, Students, professionals every single Turkish in Turkey. We must translate your book and your entire web page must be traslated as turkish for those who does not know how to read in English.

I hope that one day my organization will invite you lecture for all the Professional Turist guides to be informative. Every tour guide is being asked about this big lie here in Turkey. This year some political party members are gone to Germany to protest in Germany last feb. or March 2006.

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 I would like to share my experience with you regarding a grp of American representatives who were here 7 years ago I had guided them as an officilal visitors they were all met and welcomed by high rank city officilals such as Governners, Mayors in the easteren Turkey. There was a man among the representative always trying to blame turks that we do not take care of the Armenian Churches in easteren Turkey all the churches are ruined especially in Kars on the border of Armenia he kept blaming and I was trying to be professioinal and hosptable towards him. He never lkistened and belived what I have said to him about the these churcehs in Kars.

We were in Kars and went to visit ANI Armenian site out side Kars. This site almost on the Armenian border the border is a small river between the two country, Turkey and Armenia, We have visited many old Armenian churches there that man was blaming me I was about the loose my patient I told him the true story he did not beleive. The story was that The Armeians just opposite to Ani were digging stone Quarry with lots of explossions that was collapsing the old churches. We Turkish people warn Armenia about the damage they paid no attention they were damaging on purpuse,

The damages are made by armeinans were not excepted by represantatives while we were visiting they have made a big explossion againg and the churche that we were in one second ago just collapsed we were luck at that moment. The Armenians destroyed those representatives witnessed while we were still there my anwers were proved by Thanks God we had just got out of the church which was collopssed the idiot Armenian was begging me to forgive him that he did not belive me. They will one end up seeing their lies on their own I hope.

I think you are the strongest person againist Armenians to show them their big lie we must do the same as you do. This must be a big task every turk in this World. We must be so alert aware about the matter.

Unfortuanatley we Turkish citizens are not that informed about the matter. We do not even know the the answer for Armenians.

We have a documental book written By Turgut Ozakman with title "The Crazy Turks" the story of World War I Gallipoli and Independence War between 1919-1922. The book was first published april 2006 I read 60th published in Sept.2006 Mr.Turgut Ozakman came to Izmir for a lecture I had his signature in my book.

The last published figure for the same book now may be 350th one. People are reading this book. Your book must be read the same way in Turkish.

I am so pleased and proud of you with all the work you have done for Turks are incredible. Thanks a million on my behalf as well on Turkish people behalf who do not know you.

You are our hero and the bravest turk we must learn from you so much.

I just hope one day will get you here in Izmir to lecture all the tour guides this is very impotant for us. I love to contact you regarding Armenian lie some time when I guide special tours regading the Warld War 1 Gallipoli War. I will sent e-mail to those special tour grps who asked the quetion of the Armenian lie.

Thank a Million.

With Kindest regards from land of Peace and Tolerance with hospitable Turkish people

Fatma Acar

Profesional Tour guide in English

 

 And thank you, Fatma!

When I read Fatma's letter, I was greatly helped by my knowledge of Armenia's having engaged in these deafening blasts for the longest time. What a horrible neighbor! Imagine living "next door" to someone who has no consideration whatsoever for your peace of mind, by having their stereo on full blast... making all the glasses and dishes rattle in your kitchen. And since you can't call the police, what can you do? What the Turks have traditionally done... take the high road, and grin and bear it when their adorable Armenian and Greek neighbors constantly get into their latest round of mischief.

Yet it all fell into place. These inconsiderate explosions have been a matter of record for a good while, and it was easy to connect the dots. How very ironic that this inexplicable "sudden" damage to Armenian churches of late would be caused by the Armenians themselves. And, as usual, when Armenians do the harm, the Turks get the blame.

I realized afterwards this topic had already been covered in TAT, albeit under a different theme (the fanaticism of Armenian critics). Please tune in here to read a 2001 Los Angeles Times article that I see has also been reproduced in ANCA's site. ("As a Rare Cathedral Crumbles, Two Rival Nations Point Fingers.") When the Armenians had their turn to explain the goings-on, in the person of Gagik Gurjan, we were told Turkey was using the situation for "political ends," and that because of a gorge, there was no way the shock waves would be reaching Turkish territory and "in any way affect any building or monument."

His dreadful lie was exposed when "In an embarrassment for the Armenian government, an ear-splitting explosion rocked the site in mid-June just as a group of Armenian Americans had gathered to pray at the cathedral. They were part of a 150-member group of Armenian Americans on a pilgrimage through Turkey to retrace the steps of St. Gregory."

Because these pilgrims and the Armenian Patriarch in Turkey complained, the blasts stopped. Gurjan defiantly explained (as paraphrased), "it wasn't because of complaints from Turkey... but because workers [were] now using different quarrying methods." (He was right, actually; complaints from Turkey had been ongoing and had no effect. The Armenians probably deliberately kept at their game just to keep getting the Turks' goat. Once other Armenians started complaining, however, these boors in the Armenian government switched tracks.)

A site called "www.virtualani.org/quarry/index.htm" sheds good light on this episode. A Hurriyet article quotes a nearby resident as saying these awful explosions had been going "three to five times a day" for ten years, since 1991. ("Sometimes the earth shakes. House windows rattle. All the family can feel it. Because of this dynamiting these historical monuments are being destroyed.") What a horribly inconsiderate neighbor!

And how did evidently Hrant Dink (editor of the Armenian-Turkish publication AGOS) whom Fatma referred to, respond (in June 2001)?

"[D]o Turks have a right to speak, did they make any effort for preserving any Armenian Church in their territory, didn't they close their eyes when the churches were turning into ruins?"

There's a huge difference between neglecting maintenance on structures (no doubt a problem throughout the cash-strapped nation; it's not as though the Armenian churches would have been singled out), and insuring their destruction in a small span of time. (Just a little more indirectly than the way the Taliban criminally destroyed the ancient Buddha statues in Afghanistan.) Ahhh, that rinky Dink Dink.


Tour Guide Story Number Two


Dear Holdwater,

As being a Turkish guide who mostly works with Americans, I wanted to pass my best wishes and thanks to you for designing and building up a web site about proving that we Turks are not barbarians.

In the recent history, we had suffered a lot because of Midnight Express, Fake Armenian Genocide, Cypruss, Kurdish Terrorist Group, The Aegean and so many other things.

I had composed more than 150 trips to the Eastern and Southeastern part of Turkey and I think anyone who is talking about Armenian genocide should see this part of my country. Last year I had taken two American Armenian families to this part of the country and I did a great job as a guide. At the end of the trip, while I was leaving them to Georgian border, they were not believing in this genocide thing. They still keep in touch with me. That is how I found you, they told me about you. We have almost 4 museums in some small towns about Turkish genocide. Almost half million Turks who had been killed by Armenian gangs from 1914 till 1915. We do have all pictures, documents, and some other remaining. If you happen to need any article or anything from that museums, I am all ready to find a way to send them to you.

On the other hand, I will be glad to take you to that part of the country and show you there. This is an offer and I am ready to do it as complimentary for you.

Thanks for millions to carry the flag of Turks USA. Thanks for millions for being the eyes and hands of Turks.

Kind Regards,

Edip Ozcan Arslan

 


 And how do you like that. Edip actually caused some Armenian-Americans to come around with their genocide beliefs. That must have been a first.

More and more honorable Armenians will see through the terrible road of deceit the Dashnaks have put the Armenian people through. Let's hope some will begin to have the courage to start speaking out, and begin the journey to override this mindless hatred most Armenians have been subjected to... and to discover the power of love and reconciliation.

 

 

 


 

 

 

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THE PURPOSE OF TALL ARMENIAN TALE (TAT)
...Is to expose the mythological “Armenian genocide,” from the years 1915-16. A wartime tragedy involving the losses of so many has been turned into a politicized story of “exclusive victimhood,” and because of the prevailing prejudice against Turks, along with Turkish indifference, those in the world, particularly in the West, have been quick to accept these terribly defamatory claims involving the worst crime against humanity. Few stop to investigate below the surface that those regarded as the innocent victims, the Armenians, while seeking to establish an independent state, have been the ones to commit systematic ethnic cleansing against those who did not fit into their racial/religious ideal: Muslims, Jews, and even fellow Armenians who had converted to Islam. Criminals as Dro, Antranik, Keri, Armen Garo and Soghoman Tehlirian (the assassin of Talat Pasha, one of the three Young Turk leaders, along with Enver and Jemal) contributed toward the deaths (via massacres, atrocities, and forced deportation) of countless innocents, numbering over half a million. What determines genocide is not the number of casualties or the cruelty of the persecutions, but the intent to destroy a group, the members of which  are guilty of nothing beyond being members of that group. The Armenians suffered their fate of resettlement not for their ethnicity, having co-existed and prospered in the Ottoman Empire for centuries, but because they rebelled against their dying Ottoman nation during WWI (World War I); a rebellion that even their leaders of the period, such as Boghos Nubar and Hovhannes Katchaznouni, have admitted. Yet the hypocritical world rarely bothers to look beneath the surface, not only because of anti-Turkish prejudice, but because of Armenian wealth and intimidation tactics. As a result, these libelous lies, sometimes belonging in the category of “genocide studies,” have become part of the school curricula of many regions. Armenian scholars such as Vahakn Dadrian, Peter Balakian, Richard Hovannisian, Dennis Papazian and Levon Marashlian have been known to dishonestly present only one side of their story, as long as their genocide becomes affirmed. They have enlisted the help of "genocide scholars," such as Roger Smith, Robert Melson, Samantha Power, and Israel Charny… and particularly  those of Turkish extraction, such as Taner Akcam and Fatma Muge Gocek, who justify their alliance with those who actively work to harm the interests of their native country, with the claim that such efforts will help make Turkey more" democratic." On the other side of this coin are genuine scholars who consider all the relevant data, as true scholars have a duty to do, such as Justin McCarthy, Bernard Lewis, Heath Lowry, Erich Feigl and Guenter Lewy. The unscrupulous genocide industry, not having the facts on its side, makes a practice of attacking the messenger instead of the message, vilifying these professors as “deniers” and "agents of the Turkish government." The truth means so little to the pro-genocide believers, some even resort to the forgeries of the Naim-Andonian telegrams or sources  based on false evidence, as Franz Werfel’s The Forty Days of Musa Dagh. Naturally, there is no end to the hearsay "evidence" of the prejudiced pro-Christian people from the period, including missionaries and Near East Relief representatives, Arnold Toynbee, Lord Bryce, Lloyd George, Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, and so many others. When the rare Westerner opted to look at the issues objectively, such as Admirals Mark Bristol and Colby Chester, they were quick to be branded as “Turcophiles” by the propagandists. The sad thing is, even those who don’t consider themselves as bigots are quick to accept the deceptive claims of Armenian propaganda, because deep down people feel the Turks are natural killers and during times when Turks were victims, they do not rate as equal and deserving human beings. This is the main reason why the myth of this genocide has become the common wisdom.